Interview with Wyoming state senator, Cale Case
Cale Case (Republican) - Wyoming state senator, co-sponsor of the Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act, Hotelier, libertarian, Republican Liberty Caucus member, sometimes called “The Ron Paul of Wyoming”, comes over to Michael W. Dean’s house and yacks freely about how a Constitutional Convention can save America. They also yack about Molon Labe, the economy, homeschooling, guns, cats, pot, porn, dueling, the wind tax, the role of government, Ron Micheli, Matt Mead, Rita Meyer, Gerald Gay, Free State Wyoming and Free State Project New Hampshire, how wonderful Wyoming is, and how to be hopeful, not fearful, in the coming years in America.
(Photos by Michael W. Dean, covered by Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.)
June 29th, 2010 at 4:53 am
Ok, nice picture. Where’s the interview?
June 29th, 2010 at 7:40 am
MamaLiberty,
Click on the little “Audio MP3″ rectangle.
MWD,
Good interview, but the audio could be improved. Sounded like you’re in an echo chamber. Just sayin . . . .
I’ve lost some respect for Senator Case after hearing this.
He supports the wind tax?
Why? Private land. Private developers. Private investment.
But somehow it’s “not fair that they’re getting away with not paying anything”?
His reasoning is that it “impacts” many other forms life in WY. Nonsense.
If it’s on public (government) land, then that’s a bit different, but private?
I like his comments about the Bill of Rights not being a smorgasbord. I’ve used that comparison many times. You can’t pick and choose which you like and which you don’t. It all comes on one plate. All of it.
June 29th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
MAc- regarding audio, I forgot to turn my mic on (Cale’s was on, and he sounds fine.)
I’m usually on top of things like that, and about once a year or less, make that mistake.
MWD
June 29th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
By the way, the Wind Tax isn’t on you if you put a windmill in your yard. It’s on out of state people who are gonna muck up the scape of Wyoming a LOT in the coming few years to put up a LOT more turbines. They make noise, pollution, scare away game from hunting grounds, etc. The wind tax is a small tax on those people on the energy they ship out of state. It will likely make your electric bill go down.
Cale Case votes ‘no’ on almost everything. Wind Tax is the one thing he’s voted yes on.
He’s also the co-sponsor on the Firearms Freedom Act, and was a co-sponsor on the “no permit needed for concealed carry” bill (which failed) and a co-sponsor on the Wyoming Castle Doctrine law (which passed.) And also was a co-sponsor on the Wyoming bill to make CCW reciprocity stronger in both directions. (which passed).
MWD
June 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Very good interview Michael!
About the only things I can find to disagree with Cale on are the subjects of taxation and the ‘role of government’. Taxation as has been proven can only lawfully exist in one of two forms; direct or indirect. Direct is a capital tax that ‘falls’ directly on everyone’s head. This type was absolutely
despised by our founders as being antithical to Liberty (hence they said it can only be levied via apportionment). Indirect taxes are those that can be
voluntarily avoided if one chooses…they are excise taxes. If you are involved with the government in an activity that REQUIRES their permission then you’d have to pay them a ‘piece of the action’ for their involvement as they’re a partner in the activity. One would also have to pay a tax if one is employed or has a connection to the feds that results in
being paid by the feds. As for using taxation to effect a activity that doesn’t fall under either of the two aforementioned areas, well SCOTUS has ruled that unconstitutional in the Drexall Furniture ruling (’prohibitative
taxation to affect a product or activity is unconstitutional’).
As for the ‘proper role of government’, in my opinion (and that of Frederick Bastiat) government’s only legitimate role and reason for existance is 1.) To Protect Your Natural Rights and 2.) To Protect Your Property. (of course true ‘National Defense’ is also a legitimate role).
The idea that gov should provide ’services or products’ is statist claptrap…
if it were true then gov wouldn’t have any fears about true competion from other folks in a free market.
I’m glad to hear Cale’s stance of Cannabis Hemp; I wonder if he knows/understands how much Wyoming could benefit by having Hemp be a lawful part of Wyoming’s economy (ethanol based biofuel, fiber, food, chemical feedstock, medicine and sensible recreational choice to name but a few of it’s many uses). I’d be happy to get any information on Hemp that would help educate him if he’d like.
Yours In Liberty! W!
Steve Kristmann (Northgunner on FSW)
July 1st, 2010 at 12:24 am
I moved here from California. To me, Cale Case sounds like the most libertarian elected official I’ve ever heard. (And he makes house calls! I couldn’t even get Cali reps to do more than send me back a form letter.)
I come from the land of Pelosi and Feinstein and Waxman. So all the talk of “He believes in small taxes! He’s a statist!” falls on my deaf ears.
MWD
July 1st, 2010 at 9:17 am
MWD,
I’m so glad to hear the wind tax is “a SMALL tax on THOSE people . . . .”
As long as it’s not on me it’s OK, right?
First they came for the Jews, but I wasn’t Jewish . . . .
Out of staters? You mean we have a tax law that distinguished between in staters and out of staters? I doubt it.
So if I own 1,000 acres of PRIVATE LAND and I contract with somebody to put in 10 wind turbines, Cale believes that the state gets a piece of the action? For what exactly? How is it that MY investment in private capital and land is subject to the state of WY stealing part of the profits if I sell it? To anyone? Did I deplete the groundwater? No. Did I deplete the minerals under MY land? No.
Yes, trucks came in on the highway. They pay a road tax already. Do I need to pay MORE to use the roads? And if I strike a deal with surrounding landowners for transmission lines across their property, that’s a bad thing? THEIR land? THEIR choice?
I’m not saying Cale isn’t a good guy. He is. But ANY tax is a bad idea especially when it is enacted simply “because they can”. Road tax: fair enough. Gasoline tax: ditto. But simply because “they’re not paying their fair share”? No way!
July 1st, 2010 at 9:21 am
MAc,
Run for office. You’d have my vote!
MWD